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Q. You-all ultimately hired him a few years later, didn't you?A. We did hire him, but not after his tenure at the FDA. We he spoke to somebody at Purdue when he was planning on leaving the FDA, and Paul and I discussed it and agreed that we should not hire somebody who had who had reviewed our product and had left. And so he went to another company. regrettably for us, because he was very, very knowledgeable
Non-answer67 words that never touch the question. This is where the follow-up lived.
Q. And he says here in this paragraph, "The protocol for the placebo-controlled study versus two dose levels in patients with osteoarthritis was discussed with C. Wright." g Would that be Curtis Wright?A. That's that's what I would understand It to be. g Q. And at that time he was the person who I o was reviewing your-all's OxyContin submission to the II FDA? He was the medical reviewer, that's correct.
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Q. I'm sorry, prompted you to write your e-mail.A. It could be. as Exhibit 14. (DEPOSITION EXHIBIT NO. 14 MARKED) But I'm not sure. It could have been there could be another e-mail In which I pointed out the lack of sales development with oncologists as compared to our plan. So I'm not sure that this is but it would have been around the same time perhaps. Maybe I looked at the results with oncologists after I 2 0 read this. evidence. It's either Exhibit 2 or 3. It's the May 1993 memorandum. Here we go. Are we finished with this That's what It says.
Non-answer90 words that never touch the question — and it ends in an evasion. This is where the follow-up lived.
Q. Is is OxyContin Controiled-Release more powerful than Percocet?A. It depends on the dose. The initial dose at 10 milligrams twice a day would be equivalent to the standard introductory dose of Percocet four tablets one tablet four times a day; in other words, four. So it would be the same dose.
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Q. He went there for a short period of g time and then came to work for you-all?A. I don't remember. It was certainly it was certainly my recollection is a couple of years, two or three years, but I don't recall exactly. The record, I'm certain, could be produced.
Evasive answer"I don't recall" — the door to a clean admission was open here.
Q. It says, "Issues affecting the oncologists' utilization of OxyContin are: M.D.s feel the product dosing has a ceiling; don't feel it is as strong as MS Contin; like and are very comfortable with MS Contin and don't see a need for another product except where MS Contin fails. "Interestingly, when asked to describe what they like about OxyContin, they for the most part cited ail the key points our reps are or should be stating in their sales presentation. "The anesthesiology focus group Saturday evening was of less value however. Their primary concerns were the Medtronic pump being used by the orthopods and the need for Purdue to educate surgeons on proper post surgery pain management and fears with opioid prescribing." Is that the e-mail that prompted you to write the letter?A. It might be; I don't recall.
Evasive answer"I don't recall" — the door to a clean admission was open here.
Q. When you-all did studies, did you find out that 10 milligrams of OxyContin had the same effect as a placebo and it was really only the 20 milligram that was effective?A. I don't recall that, but it's possible.
Evasive answer"I don't recall" — the door to a clean admission was open here.
How this was graded: the transcript excerpts above are public record — machine-OCR'd from the court-released deposition in the UCSF-JHU Opioid Industry Documents Archive (Kentucky Opioid Litigation collection, doc hjdf0232). OCR artifacts (stray characters, occasional column bleed) are left in deliberately: they prove no human cleaned the input. The flags, counts, and coverage are the unedited output of the Deposition Grader — a free, browser-based tool that reads Q&A text for the patterns examiners miss in the room. No human at Demur selected or edited these flags; the same input produces the same output for anyone, at
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